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djm4_lj ([personal profile] djm4_lj) wrote2007-06-12 02:16 pm
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Mandy Rice Davies Applies

"There will often be as much interpretation of what a politician is saying, as there is coverage of them actually saying it."

Tony Blair, talking disapprovingly about the news.

Obviously, if you're a control-freak like Tony Blair, you would think that's a bad thing. Personally, I want our news media to interpret what our politicians say, rather than just slavishly reporting that they've said it. And many different points of view, and different information sources? Yes please!

In other news:

Paddy Ashdown continues to talk sense on Iraq, and foreign intervention in general.

Bisexual Underground tonight.

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2007-06-12 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd be fascinated to know what advice on Iraq Ashdown would give to the next US president.
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[personal profile] aegidian 2007-06-12 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of it is in the article. There's only one decision to be made ahead of any reconstruction process either pull the US and UK forces out, rapidly and entirely - or commit to a full occupation of the country and suppression of the insurgents and begin to prepare the hundreds of thousands of troops that would require.

I doubt the next US president, whoever they are, will have the cojones to do either though.

[identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com 2007-06-12 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
The advice in the article is mostly about what they've already done wrong. They can't un-disband the Iraqi military now, for example. AFAICT the advice applies to their *next* intervention - I can't see what guidance it offers on how best to deal with the current cock-up.
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[personal profile] aegidian 2007-06-12 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
leave your prejudices at home

Still possible with a change of personnel.

keep your ambitions low

Still possible to reduce death through violence, by a massive campaign of disarming the urban areas.

have enough resources to do the job

200,000 troops, minimum. It'd be a full national commitment on the US's part.

make security your first priority

In line with point 2, make it the only priority.

involve the neighbours

To an extent they've already done this with some success in the Kurdish North, but not enough. Inviting the UAE, Syria and Iran to participate in reconstruction for a share of the spoils might help.

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[personal profile] lovingboth 2007-06-12 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Who can blame them?

One is saying, in advance, 'stuff happens' in response to the inevitable bloodshed, the cost of the other is too high to be elected on.

(Did you see the article that reckoned that for the cost of the war + occupation so far, the US could have colonised Mars. Not visit, colonise.)

I'd accept the country was always an artifical boundary and accept it needed to be split up. This would annoy the Turks in particular (the creation of a Kurdish) state, but tough.